![]() ![]() To me, even the devices that are better at flash suppression ends up with more noticeable muzzle flash when they are capped with a blast-shield/redirection device. ![]() 22AR sports an A2.Ĭlick to expand.So I'll again attack flash, first. ![]() My 223's all wear flash hiders, YHM 5C1 or 5C2. On my 308AR, the brake isn't coming off unless I start collecting stamps, so it only sees trigger time when I have the range to myself, or on family shoot days when everyone knows what's coming. I am a recent fan of VG6 options, but I can't use a cage on the Gamma 762's I have so while I'd like to know what effect it has, unless I change my 7.62x39's brake out for the Gamma 300, I won't find out for a while. Side track complete, you've mentioned what you're looking for, but not really why or what use case you're after, so I'm not really sure what combo would best suit you. I'm probably the A-hole, but I'm fine with that too. On the few occasions I have gotten complaints about an AR brake, I usually apologize, case it up, and then start running rounds through my M44. Even when I do, I figure the concussion from an AR brake is still less than my mosins, so I don't gripe about brakes shooting next to me, and don't expect any directed at me. My personal view is to use the muzzle device best suited to what I want to accomplish, but I also don't shoot with neighbors on a line much these days. The muzzle flash intensity is the same either way, just more contained and directed with a muzzle device versus the full fire ball on an unconstrained muzzle. Observers will probably have a different experience, but it's important to note that flash hiders were developed to help the shooter maintain night vision, not to help them stay hidden. Some are obviously better than others, but short of a suppressor, even a brake will seem less "flashy" to the shooter. On the subject of flash hiding, practically any porting at the muzzle will have less flash noticable to the shooter than a bare muzzle. There is mildly less side concussion than a brake, but certainly more than even a flash hider. ![]() My understanding of them is that they have less "flip" than a blast can, while having the same sound direction.Ī bare muzzle sounds and radiates sound just like any conventional rifle, and just sounds weird on an AR. But there's always a purpose for which they're optimized, and there's always a trade-off. on a medium frame), when I'm using good recoil control, no, the difference is not that noticeable: but when you're either trying to shave tenths of seconds or if the shooter is that little girl, the difference is more than just a little palpable. In-practice, with a guy my size (6'-even, porky 250 lbs. With the Griffin setup on my gun, it's very noticeable, the difference in behavior in terms of recoil mitigation with the shield on versus off, and this video by Sage Dynamics/Aaron Cowan shows it well: In-essence, popping one of those overriding devices - one that's not like the VG6 CAGE - forces the escaping gases to take a route that's no longer optimized by the "naked" muzzle device. ^ so standing shoulder-to-shoulder while my daughter is shooting, while she feels virtually no blast, I eat a bit - and this is why I use the Griffin combo on my gun when I'm shooting with her: because that complete cone completely shields her from blast/concussion from the side.Īnd here, we backtrack a bit to your linear-comp question. Its overriding blast mitigation device, the CAGE, though, "ports through". My daughter's AR wears a VG6 Epsilon, and it is noticeably more blasty as compared to the Griffin, but its that much better at recoil mitigation (the data from TTAG's tests shows this, but on a then 12-year-old-girl that's all of a buck fifteen soaking wet, the subjective first-hand view is impressive). The design of the muzzle device itself as well as the overriding blast redirection device will also determine its overall behavior. I've seen a bit of the Surefire Warden, and to me, it also seem the same holds true. The same increase in flash seems to hold true for the Griffin combo, too, with also of-course similar redirection of muzzle blast. The Blackout offers superior flash suppression, but with the BlastOut on, while it's much less "blasty," I see a bit more flash. and also the AAC Blackout/BlastOut combo. *image stolen from - 6 of the Best Muzzle Blast Control Devices Available - Ballistic Magazine ![]()
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